{"id":1402,"date":"2010-02-11T14:23:18","date_gmt":"2010-02-11T13:23:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.intego.com\/?p=1402"},"modified":"2010-02-11T14:23:18","modified_gmt":"2010-02-11T13:23:18","slug":"google-makes-first-payout-for-security-bugs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.intego.com\/mac-security-blog\/google-makes-first-payout-for-security-bugs\/","title":{"rendered":"Google Makes First Payout for Security Bugs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Google <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.chromium.org\/2010\/01\/encouraging-more-chromium-security.html\">recently announced<\/a> that they would be paying people who find security-related bugs in its Chrome browser. Payments would range from $500 for most bugs, but, &#8220;If the panel [the group judging the merits of each bug] finds a particular bug particularly severe or particularly clever, we envisage rewards of $1337.&#8221; The first payment was made <a href=\"http:\/\/googlechromereleases.blogspot.com\/2010\/02\/stable-channel-update.html\">for a bug described as &#8220;Domain confusion populating HTTP authentication dialog.&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The concept of crowd-sourcing security is an odd one. It&#8217;s certainly not new; in the open-source world, it is the only way that bugs of all types are found. But for a company of Google&#8217;s stature &#8211; and its bank accounts &#8211; asking users to find bugs is perplexing. First, the payments &#8211; which will most likely be $500 &#8211; certainly don&#8217;t cover the time it takes to find and isolate a bug. It can take days to ensure that a bug exists, to test it, to make sure it is duplicable, and to file a clear bug report. In addition, there could be dozens of people filing the same bug, and only the first one who files it will get credit. People could spend a great deal of time hoping to win what is a bit of a lottery.<\/p>\n<p>And with this stable of testers, does this mean that, since Google is relying on the kindness of strangers, that their developers won&#8217;t be looking as hard for vulnerabilities?<\/p>\n<p>On the other side of the coin, some people will take shortcuts to try and make a quick $500; they&#8217;ll see something odd, and file a bug report, making more work for Google&#8217;s developers to test it and see if it is valid.<\/p>\n<p>Not everyone agrees with Google&#8217;s policy. <a href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-27080_3-10449661-245.html\">Microsoft is quite blunt:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&#8220;Microsoft does not offer compensation for information regarding security vulnerabilities. We do not believe that offering compensation for vulnerability information is the best way we can help protect our customers,&#8221; said Dave Forstrom, group manager of Microsoft Trustworthy Computing. &#8220;We also do not think it fosters the growth of a healthy ecosystem.&#8221;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And others are even hostile to the idea:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&#8220;It&#8217;s probably better to pay professional QA [quality assurance] people and pen [penetration] testers than to expect the public to do your testing for you on the cheap,&#8221; said Gary McGraw, chief technology officer at Cigital and a specialist in secure code writing processes. &#8220;No excellent professional tester I know would be attracted by a bounty like that&#8211;perhaps adolescents would do it for beer money (or rather Red Bull and vodka money).&#8221;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But Google has competitors. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zerodayinitiative.com\/\">Zero Day Initiative<\/a> has been paying for bugs for years, and much more than what Google is offering. Some security researchers go as far as calling Google&#8217;s offer &#8220;insulting.&#8221; Charlie Miller, a Mac security expert, <a href=\"http:\/\/news.zdnet.com\/2100-9595_22-392258.html\">said<\/a>, &#8220;I think it&#8217;s ridiculous. It&#8217;s insulting. It&#8217;s so low.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While this issue is dividing those in the security industry, it does look, to some observers, like a multi-billion-dollar company is hoping to save a few bucks by getting people to do important work for little reward. With security being so important for a web browser, is that really the best way to ensure that users are not at risk?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Google recently announced that they would be paying people who find security-related bugs in its Chrome browser. 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